Apple picker job
Posted: 05 October 2009 08:45 AM  
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Hi there. I’m allan from the Philippines. I just want to ask for some opinions regarding this apple picker jobs. There are agencies here in Manila hiring people for this kind of job in Spain. The salary being offered is 1300 euros. I am not sure if this is enough for me to live and work there with this salary and still be able to send support to my parents here in Manila. Any advice or opinion will be much appreciated. Thanks!!

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Posted: 05 October 2009 11:00 AM   [ # 1 ]  
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1300,wow is that per month if it is then its very good for spain.People in spain live on a lot less than that.

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Posted: 05 October 2009 01:02 PM   [ # 2 ]  
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Well my Spanish Employer, same company that I worked for in UK stated that on average the wage for my position in Spain was 35,000 Euros a year.

It was nothing like that.

Most I took home on a good month was 1700 Euros, on average though 1200 a month.

Spanish guys I worked with had never earned that amount, not even the boss of Andalucia was earning that a year.

When I confronted my boss I was told after he stopped laughing, that was an incentive too come, although they preferred too offer it to people who they describe as hungry.

The UK apparently we arn`t hungry (desperate) enough, which is why I left.

Be careful with offers, they no your likely too stay than return home.

Fruit pickin isn`t highly paid and its long, hard work, but if your hungry (desperate), try it.

Spaniards lie, I`ll probably get told I`m talkin rubbish, but in general, Spanish lie, a lot.

They also show off, what many expats view as welcoming isn`t that, there basically tellin you my country is far better than yours and this is how you should live.

After all you as an expat have chosen there country over your own.

I`ve just been on a cruise with my Spanish In laws around the med, the majority on board where Spanish as it was booked in Spain.

We had a phone call from my mother in law yesterday, she`s recieved a parcel of Olive Oil from a couple we got friendly with onboard from Jaen.

The husband works in an Olive factory, so because my in laws live in northern Spain, they decided to send them some oil.

My mother in law is now callin them ignorant picos as “Don`t they no we have oil in the Basque country” etc etc.

Apparently there sending us some Jamon and Cheese from Jaen.

I`m happy, anything free is good in my eyes, just wish I knew before I bought a Kilo of Spanish cheese in Makro.

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Posted: 05 October 2009 09:01 PM   [ # 3 ]  
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pepsi - 05 October 2009 11:00 AM

1300,wow is that per month if it is then its very good for spain.People in spain live on a lot less than that.

That was the proposed salary given by the agency. I tried researching about this job ad and i found almost the same job ads but handled by a different agency abroad (not here in the Phils). I don’t have any ideas about the cost of living in Spain but I guess need to do more researching on this one. Thanks for the info.

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Posted: 05 October 2009 09:16 PM   [ # 4 ]  
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Santi - 05 October 2009 01:02 PM

Well my Spanish Employer, same company that I worked for in UK stated that on average the wage for my position in Spain was 35,000 Euros a year.

It was nothing like that.

Most I took home on a good month was 1700 Euros, on average though 1200 a month.

Spanish guys I worked with had never earned that amount, not even the boss of Andalucia was earning that a year.

When I confronted my boss I was told after he stopped laughing, that was an incentive too come, although they preferred too offer it to people who they describe as hungry.

The UK apparently we arn`t hungry (desperate) enough, which is why I left.

Be careful with offers, they no your likely too stay than return home.

Fruit pickin isn`t highly paid and its long, hard work, but if your hungry (desperate), try it.

Spaniards lie, I`ll probably get told I`m talkin rubbish, but in general, Spanish lie, a lot.

They also show off, what many expats view as welcoming isn`t that, there basically tellin you my country is far better than yours and this is how you should live.

After all you as an expat have chosen there country over your own.

I`ve just been on a cruise with my Spanish In laws around the med, the majority on board where Spanish as it was booked in Spain.

We had a phone call from my mother in law yesterday, she`s recieved a parcel of Olive Oil from a couple we got friendly with onboard from Jaen.

The husband works in an Olive factory, so because my in laws live in northern Spain, they decided to send them some oil.

My mother in law is now callin them ignorant picos as “Don`t they no we have oil in the Basque country” etc etc.

Apparently there sending us some Jamon and Cheese from Jaen.

I`m happy, anything free is good in my eyes, just wish I knew before I bought a Kilo of Spanish cheese in Makro.


Thanks for the advice and the infos. I guess you can say that in some parts of the world people are hungry (desperate) enough to have an income to support their family and here in Phils is not that different at all.  That 35000 euros a year is really a good income and some people get to be lucky. On my side, 1300 euros may not be the “net” income and I still got no ideas how much will be left after deductions like tax and the likes. I guess if I will land this job, It would be a good start. Thanks for the infos.

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Posted: 06 October 2009 07:16 PM   [ # 5 ]  
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I`d bet money they`d pay you less than 1,000 a month and tell you if you don`t like it, go home.

The Morrocans are fallin over themselves every year to work the fields.

This year the Spanish refused Morrocans entry to work, replacing them with Spanish labour, the Morrocans rioted.

The average salary in Malaga city for a Spaniard was measured in 2009 as being 800 Euros per month.

This is an article comparing Spain to the rest of EU, note Spain average is 1,900 Euros a month compared too 3,607 Euros a month in the UK.

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/sueldo/medio/Espana/continua/descendiendo/reduce/primer/trimestre/elpporeco/20060710elpepueco_6/Tes

Este estudio constata, adem?s, que el salario espa?ol ha experimentado la peor evoluci?n contemplada entre los pa?ses incluidos en el informe. Con 1.922 euros, el sueldo medio espa?ol s?lo se sit?a por encima del portugu?s (1.236 euros) y el polaco (662 euros).

Por el contrario, los salarios m?s elevados corresponden a Reino Unido (3.607 euros) y Alemania (3.061 euros), seguidos de Francia (2.615 euros) e Italia (2.331 euros). De esta manera, el sueldo medio de los espa?oles es un 18% inferior al de los italianos, un 27% m?s bajo que el de los franceses, y un 37% menor que el de los alemanes. En relaci?n con la media europea, el salario medio espa?ol es un 15,2% m?s bajo.

Basically Spain is 15.2% less paid.

So I really doubt fruit pickers from Asia will earn 1300 a month in a country hit hardest of all the EU countries by the current crisis.

I could be wrong, but I`ve experienced the lies.

I`d be very careful and if you want accurate research, do it in Spanish on the net.

This article is about problems within the industry for immigrants and the recent riots concerning pay cuts.

http://www.lasprovincias.es/valencia/20081125/economia/millar-collidors-inmigrantes-amotinan-20081125.html

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Posted: 06 October 2009 09:36 PM   [ # 6 ]  
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1300 euros , sould like a scam to me
Avg wage in spain is 200 - 250 euros a week .... there 4 million on the dole here and thay do any think two work and get money in there pockets ....
what about you travel and visa costs ?

Sound like there some thing go on there .......

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Posted: 07 October 2009 10:27 AM   [ # 7 ]  
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Santi - 06 October 2009 07:16 PM

I`d bet money they`d pay you less than 1,000 a month and tell you if you don`t like it, go home.

The Morrocans are fallin over themselves every year to work the fields.

This year the Spanish refused Morrocans entry to work, replacing them with Spanish labour, the Morrocans rioted.

The average salary in Malaga city for a Spaniard was measured in 2009 as being 800 Euros per month.

This is an article comparing Spain to the rest of EU, note Spain average is 1,900 Euros a month compared too 3,607 Euros a month in the UK.

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/sueldo/medio/Espana/continua/descendiendo/reduce/primer/trimestre/elpporeco/20060710elpepueco_6/Tes

Este estudio constata, adem?s, que el salario espa?ol ha experimentado la peor evoluci?n contemplada entre los pa?ses incluidos en el informe. Con 1.922 euros, el sueldo medio espa?ol s?lo se sit?a por encima del portugu?s (1.236 euros) y el polaco (662 euros).

Wow.. thanks a lot for the very good information. I also checked out the link you sent me and suddenly had to recall my spanish lessons. I was able to understand some points. It is really enlightening to know some political concerns related to it. Thanks!!

Por el contrario, los salarios m?s elevados corresponden a Reino Unido (3.607 euros) y Alemania (3.061 euros), seguidos de Francia (2.615 euros) e Italia (2.331 euros). De esta manera, el sueldo medio de los espa?oles es un 18% inferior al de los italianos, un 27% m?s bajo que el de los franceses, y un 37% menor que el de los alemanes. En relaci?n con la media europea, el salario medio espa?ol es un 15,2% m?s bajo.

Basically Spain is 15.2% less paid.

So I really doubt fruit pickers from Asia will earn 1300 a month in a country hit hardest of all the EU countries by the current crisis.

I could be wrong, but I`ve experienced the lies.

I`d be very careful and if you want accurate research, do it in Spanish on the net.

This article is about problems within the industry for immigrants and the recent riots concerning pay cuts.

http://www.lasprovincias.es/valencia/20081125/economia/millar-collidors-inmigrantes-amotinan-20081125.html

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Posted: 07 October 2009 10:31 AM   [ # 8 ]  
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asero - 07 October 2009 10:27 AM
Santi - 06 October 2009 07:16 PM

I`d bet money they`d pay you less than 1,000 a month and tell you if you don`t like it, go home.

The Morrocans are fallin over themselves every year to work the fields.

This year the Spanish refused Morrocans entry to work, replacing them with Spanish labour, the Morrocans rioted.

The average salary in Malaga city for a Spaniard was measured in 2009 as being 800 Euros per month.

This is an article comparing Spain to the rest of EU, note Spain average is 1,900 Euros a month compared too 3,607 Euros a month in the UK.

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/sueldo/medio/Espana/continua/descendiendo/reduce/primer/trimestre/elpporeco/20060710elpepueco_6/Tes

Este estudio constata, adem?s, que el salario espa?ol ha experimentado la peor evoluci?n contemplada entre los pa?ses incluidos en el informe. Con 1.922 euros, el sueldo medio espa?ol s?lo se sit?a por encima del portugu?s (1.236 euros) y el polaco (662 euros).

Wow.. thanks a lot for the very good information. I also checked out the link you sent me and suddenly had to recall my spanish lessons. I was able to understand some points. It is really enlightening to know some political concerns related to it. Thanks!!

Por el contrario, los salarios m?s elevados corresponden a Reino Unido (3.607 euros) y Alemania (3.061 euros), seguidos de Francia (2.615 euros) e Italia (2.331 euros). De esta manera, el sueldo medio de los espa?oles es un 18% inferior al de los italianos, un 27% m?s bajo que el de los franceses, y un 37% menor que el de los alemanes. En relaci?n con la media europea, el salario medio espa?ol es un 15,2% m?s bajo.

Basically Spain is 15.2% less paid.

So I really doubt fruit pickers from Asia will earn 1300 a month in a country hit hardest of all the EU countries by the current crisis.

I could be wrong, but I`ve experienced the lies.

I`d be very careful and if you want accurate research, do it in Spanish on the net.

This article is about problems within the industry for immigrants and the recent riots concerning pay cuts.

http://www.lasprovincias.es/valencia/20081125/economia/millar-collidors-inmigrantes-amotinan-20081125.html

 

Thanks a lot for the great info. The link is also informative. It’s good to have an idea regarding political/social matters related to that job. Thanks!!!!

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Posted: 07 October 2009 10:35 AM   [ # 9 ]  
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jurdyr - 06 October 2009 09:36 PM

1300 euros , sould like a scam to me
Avg wage in spain is 200 - 250 euros a week .... there 4 million on the dole here and thay do any think two work and get money in there pockets ....
what about you travel and visa costs ?

Sound like there some thing go on there .......

 


The final interview has not been scheduled yet. When they told me that it was just a proposed salary then I guess that confirmed what was mentioned by you and the others who reply to this post.  I’ll know if this is a scam when I come face to face with the interviewer. Thanks a lot to all for the help.

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