My American wife wants to live with me, an English resident in Spain.
Posted: 16 January 2011 04:28 AM  
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Hope someone can enlighten me, i have been told here in Spain that my America wife who wants to join me in becoming a resident in Spain, has to return to USA to get a visa, then return to Spain, then she can apply for agrupacion, as i am a resident of Spain.
She has asked the Spanish consulate in Houston Texas, and they told her after several phone calls, that she does not need a visa to return and request a resident permit, although here, the lady that is doing the paper work said that she does need a visa, so we don’t know what to do, can anyone help in this matter.

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Posted: 16 January 2011 05:57 AM   [ # 1 ]  
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There’s definitely no requirement to get a visa before applying for reagrupaci?n (I’m like 90% sure).

Can you find a different person to do the paper work?

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Posted: 16 January 2011 06:09 PM   [ # 2 ]  
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This might help (see pg 7)

For the Regulations document in English
http://extranjeros.mtin.es/es/InformacionInteres/FolletosInformativos/archivos/VERSION_INGLES.pdf

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Posted: 17 January 2011 03:47 AM   [ # 3 ]  
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bombero2011 - 16 January 2011 04:28 AM

Hope someone can enlighten me, i have been told here in Spain that my America wife who wants to join me in becoming a resident in Spain, has to return to USA to get a visa, then return to Spain, then she can apply for agrupacion, as i am a resident of Spain.
She has asked the Spanish consulate in Houston Texas, and they told her after several phone calls, that she does not need a visa to return and request a resident permit, although here, the lady that is doing the paper work said that she does need a visa, so we don’t know what to do, can anyone help in this matter.

As a UK citizen, your wife can apply for eu family resident visa.
She does not need a visa to enter spain since there is a visa waiver for usa passport holders.
However, among the documents that you need to submit to the comisar?a, is the marriage certificate, etc or if she has a residency visa in the uk as spouse of uk citizen to prove your connection to each other.
to prove that she does not need a visa check this website
http://www.maec.es/subwebs/Consulados/Boston/en/MenuPpal/scBoston/visas/Paginas/Visas.aspx#5
read the requirements for the ff
Residence visa to reunite a family member with a citizen of Spain or a EU member
at the end you will read this:

American citizens and those of nationalities that do not require visa according the above mentioned list (Anejo 1 ICC) do not require a residence visa and must apply for their residence card once they arrive in Spain.
Nationals of the countries that require a visa to enter Spain must submit the following requirements: ....

your wife may does not need a visa but may have to carry with her upon applications the other requirements listed.
if you have the time you can apply by yourself with your wife for the the resident card. get the requirement list yourself and find out.
the site also has an english and spanish version.
http://www.maec.es/Subwebs/Consulados/boston/es/Home/Paginas/Home.aspx

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Posted: 27 January 2011 01:29 AM   [ # 4 ]  
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I just wrote this to decompress after a lng day of dealing with immigration, it should really help you:

Applying for Residency in Spain as a non-EU Spouse (specific for Americans, but maybe useful for others):
You did it, you and your spouse moved to Spain. Now what? Well you are in luck if you have a residency card someplace else in the EU, I have no clue what that process is, but I have heard it is easier. However, if you are like me, and were married in the states then brace yourself for a paperwork roller coaster. I had a lot of help from other people I know who are married to EU citizens. Here are some tips to help you along. Oh it is also worth mentioning that I read that they no longer issue visas for spouses in Spain you have to go through the residency process. This information is recent as of January 2011.
The absolute first thing you have to do is register your marriage with the EU country where your spouse is from. Where you do this (and how long it takes) varies per country and it cannot be done at an embassy it has to be sent to the actual county. This will require your spouse?s birth certificate, your birth certificate with and Apostil stamp, and copies of both your passports. You also have to fill out an official request of course. If you are American like I am, the Apostil stamp can only be issued by the state that created the document. So if you live in Ohio but were born in Florida, it has to come from Florida, wherever the Secretary of State is located in that state. In the case of the Netherlands, the copies of the birth certificates cannot be older than 6 months. Most EU countries issue marriage certificated that are already in multiple languages, if yours is not, you have to have it translated.
Also at the top of the list is registering you and your spouse with City Hall (Empadronamiento). Where you need to go depends on the district you live in. For this you have to have:
Your lease (in Spanish)
If you have children you need an Apostilled copy of their birth certificate (and pray that they don?t ask that it is translated, they just need something saying you are the child?s parents).
Your passports
Spouse?s NIE
They should be able to print the document for you right then and there. Once you have the registrations, make several copies of this you need at least 3, 2 for the government and 1 for yourself.
Around the same time go onto http://www.mpr.es and make an appointment with ?Servicio de Cita Previa? you will need to select ?RESIDENCE PERMIT FOR RELATIVES OF EU NATIONALS? (tarjeta de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la Uni?n)
You will go to the Oficina de Extranjeros located at: MURCIA 42 BARCELONA 08027
The appointment is usually made 3-4 weeks out, you probably won?t have your marriage certificate but you can take all of your other documents with you and get the application process rolling. Be prepared to wait for an hour and for the place to be swamped.
The documents you should have are:
Both passports (obviously)
Your spouse?s NIE document (no longer a card), plus copy
Work contract if you have it (just in case)
A completed EX16 form, Download form EX 16
2 copies of both you and your spouse?s passports
The marriage certificate from your EU spouse?s country (apparently this cannot be older than 3 months)
A copy of both of your registrations with city hall (Empadronamientos)
Three passport-sized photographs in color.

You will leave with a paper listing the missing documents needed for your application (hopefully none). If you are missing some of the documents you can return to the Oficina de Extranjeros any time once you have them in order. You don?t need an appointment but be prepared to wait at least a half hour. The office is open 9-5.
After this visit, they will issue you a letter saying your application is complete and you will have to go to the next step (no it isn?t picking up your residency card, that would make too much sense), which is going to the Police Station 2 weeks after all your documents are in. It is called the Comisaria de Barcelona-Balmes, located on the corner of Calle Guadalajara and Calle Bosch.  You will know you are there because there will be a bunch of other immigrants wondering around looking confused. It is located on a really small insignificant side street, but don?t fear you are in the right place!
You will need:
The letter from the Oficina de Extranjeros
3 recent passport sized pictures
Your registration with City Hall
As always be prepared to wait, the police at the guard post will direct you where to go. Don?t let them send you around the corner, you have to be there. Once you get a live person, it goes quickly. They give you a slip to take to a different office where you will pick up your actual card. I was confused, and went there right away, but you can?t pick up the actual card until one month after the Comisaria grants it. They also give you a form to take to your bank where you need to transfer 10 Euro to the Police. This is called a Modelo 790, and I have seen it mentioned elsewhere saying you should complete it before going. Unfortunately there is no way for you to get this form in advance because it is a carbon copy. Oh and another joyous tidbit about this form, all of the banks within blocks of the Comisaria only process these forms between 9 and 10:30. Which is next to impossible to get done due to the long wait at the station. The good news is that you have a month to make the transfer before you have to go pick up your card. The office where your card is located is:
Calle Mallorca 213. The wait is short once you get there?
Finally, hop on one foot, pat your tummy clockwise, while holding your nose, and counting backwards from 100?..

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Posted: 27 January 2011 01:42 AM   [ # 5 ]  
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By the way…

Your actual question: Your wife is allowed to be here legally under the Shengen agreement for 90 days within a 6 month time period. EC law says that undocumented spouses cannot be deported unless the immigration officer has just cause to believe the marriage is no legitimate. There is no visa that she can apply for because Spain doe not “do” spousal visas anymore. She has to apply for a residency card. It is an onerous process but if you have all of the information going in it helps. After her 90 days are up it is best not to travel outside of the country (especially not to the UK because you Brits take immigrations stuff way to seriously). If you do travel outside of the EU make sure you are with her and that you have any documentation that shows you are in the process of applying for residency. You are welcome to contact me, I just finished the whole painful process.

Good luck.

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Posted: 20 April 2011 04:13 AM   [ # 6 ]  
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How long did this whole process take?  The timeline seems to be about a month after you arrived in Spain.  Did your wife have to get FBI background checks and doctors notes proving she has health insurance?  My situation seems very similar, I am a Belgian Citizen, marrying an American woman and we want to live in Spain.  I have already lived there in the past so all my paperwork is in order.  I am in the process of trying to register our marriage with Belgium as I do not know how long this process will take. 

Hopefully If I go with all of the correct paperwork, she will be a legal resident and able to work within a month?

The consulate here has been giving me a generic, cut-and-paste answer from their web page saying that she has to go through all these steps that look like Visa requirements.  I would like to know if these extra things are required.

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