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hi, i wanted to ask how are getting away racist discrimination with out been charged for the crimes?
Posted: 27 June 2008 04:54 PM   [ # 16 ]  
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Gabriel, I think you need to move down south.

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Posted: 27 June 2008 05:04 PM   [ # 17 ]  
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rubi995 - 27 June 2008 04:54 PM

Gabriel, I think you need to move down south.

amazing

some guy just told me that everywhere else outside barcelona, PEOPLE are nicer!

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Posted: 27 June 2008 06:37 PM   [ # 18 ]  
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Gabriel - 27 June 2008 05:04 PM
rubi995 - 27 June 2008 04:54 PM

Gabriel, I think you need to move down south.

amazing

some guy just told me that everywhere else outside barcelona, PEOPLE are nicer!

That is amazing, how did he meet everyone ?

Seriously though all I can go on is my experiences of living in Spain.

I think the same rules apply to me as you guys, although you may think everybody in Barcelona is as you describe, there is always the possibility there not.

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Posted: 27 June 2008 09:40 PM   [ # 19 ]  
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Santi - 27 June 2008 06:37 PM
Gabriel - 27 June 2008 05:04 PM
rubi995 - 27 June 2008 04:54 PM

Gabriel, I think you need to move down south.

amazing

some guy just told me that everywhere else outside barcelona, PEOPLE are nicer!

That is amazing, how did he meet everyone ?

Seriously though all I can go on is my experiences of living in Spain.

I think the same rules apply to me as you guys, although you may think everybody in Barcelona is as you describe, there is always the possibility there not.

He lives in Alecante, 4 years now,  plays guitar.

I never said EVERY BODY IN BARCELONA is racist or one way 😊 , i said what my Catalan friends and family say, THE OLD POEPLE ARE INDEED RACIST, there kids are more nationalists, while younger kids who come from wealthier backgrounds are a mix of all that but changing.

It is seen mostly as European Catholic culture, the hostility towards others in order to gain respect simply by claiming your blood is worth more then others., facts are that if everyone had the same blood they would be RETARDED,  but just try telling a NAZI fans of Franco any where in Barcelona that when they are the ones who gained the wealth of most Catalans today who are crying that they are fading away., i can assure you they abide by those blood line lies as much as the fairy tales of Catalonia’s medieval Kingdoms while the greeks habituated the whole Mediterranean for centuries then.

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Posted: 27 June 2008 10:31 PM   [ # 20 ]  
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Gabriel - 27 June 2008 09:40 PM

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I never said EVERY BODY IN BARCELONA is racist or one way 😊 ,.

Don`t think I stated everybody in the rest of Spain was.

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Posted: 27 June 2008 10:45 PM   [ # 21 ]  
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Santi - 27 June 2008 10:31 PM
Gabriel - 27 June 2008 09:40 PM

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I never said EVERY BODY IN BARCELONA is racist or one way 😊 ,.

Don`t think I stated everybody in the rest of Spain was.

no no

just wanted to be clear.

but about all thus stuff, maybe my catalan is improving and this was all ways going on and i just never noticed it 😛

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Posted: 28 June 2008 01:00 PM   [ # 22 ]  
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Its been goin on in Spain for hundreds of years.

There history is one of a region made up of seperate kingdoms that were forced together via arranged marriages and agreements between Royals and noblemen.

Thats why we all love Spain so much, its there culture which has survived because of a fierece need to be seperate.

You only need to speak to people from various regions to realise that they are different.

Francoism isn`t unique to Barcelona, there are many Facist`s all over Spain.and there not all old people from the past.

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Posted: 16 July 2008 01:31 AM   [ # 23 ]  
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Santi - 28 June 2008 01:00 PM

Its been goin on in Spain for hundreds of years.

There history is one of a region made up of seperate kingdoms that were forced together via arranged marriages and agreements between Royals and noblemen.

Well Spain is part of the EU now so if anyone wants to stay in the dark ages they will find out the hard way sooner or later., they sure did after they invaded Spain and found a very rich (Islamic) civilization that showed the world proof that the earth the it was round while everyone guessed it was flat with four corners and you fall of the edge if you go to far outside earth’s capital, ROME., and the Roman Empire., the transition out of the dark ages is NOW with the EU! haha lol

My guess is that the EU was created to keep us in Europe from fears of exoduses to America., which is not far from the truth.
While the euro is so strong we are all been charged more taxes, wait till the end of the month for our nominas and think we have more then the average american at McDonnells who brings home what we do in one month in a week., but i like the trade of, i do not have to buy a house in Beverly Hills California for 2 millions dollars with a fake greek statue to pretend i am there. 😉  i got the weather and Barcelona’s city night life here., too bad all the coke dealers are doing there biz in this city, the sleeze is now on the rise, but during the day its fine as long as i dont run into any old men who escaped the fall of Nazi Germany and hide out here with guns in there cars incase there dose of Xenophobia starts acting up., in the meantime, i think they will all be gone in the next few years 😊  then we EU can clean up more corrupt cops like the ones in Madrid who where running a sham for 21 years with hookers

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Posted: 16 July 2008 02:22 PM   [ # 24 ]  
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The EU sets guideline’s, not all EU countries implement them.

My job in Spain carries non of the Health & Safety guidelines the same job in the UK carries, yet its the EU who set the standards, the UK decided to implement them and Spain decided to ignore them.

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Posted: 16 July 2008 02:51 PM   [ # 25 ]  
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Santi - 16 July 2008 02:22 PM

The EU sets guideline’s, not all EU countries implement them.

My job in Spain carries non of the Health & Safety guidelines the same job in the UK carries, yet its the EU who set the standards, the UK decided to implement them and Spain decided to ignore them.

true., Spain and Italy has no guarantee to control Police Violence as well, they tend to have the right to beat anyone they want with out questions., all they need to find out in order to beat someone in there own homes is if they have a good job or the money to made the police pay for it.

My friend was renting a flat and decide to rent one of the rooms out, he did not need the owners permission since the under tenant was only staying a short period of 3 months., but the CATALAN neighbors claimed it was illegal and harassed my friend and his girlfriend to the point where the girl renting the room was so scared she believed them and wanted to leave immediately y after hearing lies that my friend never gives the deposits back to who he rents a room out too, remind you it was his first time.

The neighbors had volunteer police (no guns) who they knew go to my friends house demanding his ID etc and saying to give the girl her deposit and all back and that renting was illegal, he explained to them that he asked the owner and agency and it was legal but of-course these fake cops started threatening him claiming he locked the girl out of her room which was not true at all.., so my friend called 112 and verified that they where not real cops but they where all ready gong by then so he was advised to go to the police station to see what this girl claimed, the police told him they had no idea what he was talking about and no girl ever called or showed up to claim anything at his address, so he told the police that he wanted to file a complaint against her in case the neighbors used her and lied again claiming he locked her out but the police said she had no contract or that anyone authorized a document saying she lived there and no one was hurt so nothing can be reported.

My friend gets back to his house and his girlfriend said she was back with the cops while he was at the police station and they said they where going to return, again he goes to the police station and asks and then the guy he spoke to finally said yeah she was there a day before crying claiming he was gonna rip of her deposit and she would not get it back, but he told the guy he never spoke to her about anything yet or was he ever told she wanted to move, she decided this based on her paranoia thanks to neighbors lying to her that he was this type of person etc etc.

Finally all the police could do is tell my friend that sunday she will be there to get her things and have her deposit, so my friend stashed a camera in his piso behind a curtain before they came, he told me he waited till he passed out, finally around 5PM sunday 2 cops and some strange person who is not the owner or neighbor where outside the hallway with the girl, i watched the video, the police came inside harassing him in front of his girlfriend yelling real loud so the neighbors hear it in the hall way to humiliate him saying you cant rent a room to anyone if your not the owner and you MUST give the deposits back etc etc., while i watched the video he also went back to the police station with to complain., every time my friend was asked for ID or anything the cops acted like he was going to reach for a gun or run out a window so they said slowly slowly, hands up i mean they where harassing and trying to make a scene for the neighbors, and when he turned his back the cops examined the locks and so on.

The whole thing took 1 hour and 20 minutes, the cops are supposed to bring peace to the community but instead harassed people abusing the law., the video shows one cop saying to my friend if you have her deposit we will make sure she is out of here and never comes back, basically asking for the money for themselves., later on her way out in the video she tells my friend she was surprised he had her money so he asked her why did you think this, and she said the neighbors are relatives of the chief of police and they told me you did this before, of course he said its a lie and he never did anything to them to deserve this,

The story was so long and confusing i fell asleep watching the videos and soaked it up a week later,  the girl was from Syria the police realized later when they examined her ID that she was born in Syria but lived in Italy, she never filed a complaint or was there one ever made, she was just at the station waiting for a free car to get a ride a block away to the house with the cops., my friend told me many woman where waiting at the police station from been robbed, raped and beaten and that this girl simply gets a police car on tax payers expense to the house a block away is outrages.

Anyway, that is what i call INJUSTICE and CORRUPTION.

In the end the owner of the flat told him the neighbors hate her for renting to foreigners and she never goes to the building meetings and its why she does not live there, :(

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Posted: 16 July 2008 03:17 PM   [ # 26 ]  
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Maybe you should pass on the info to the many forigner journalist and newspapers based in Spain.

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Posted: 16 July 2008 06:18 PM   [ # 27 ]  
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Santi - 16 July 2008 03:17 PM

Maybe you should pass on the info to the many forigner journalist and newspapers based in Spain.

funny you say that, it happened a year ago, and his girlfriend insisted to just move but they stayed there and left just a month ago to Sweden with her parents. :(

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Posted: 16 July 2008 06:37 PM   [ # 28 ]  
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The only way to change is for people to become aware of the situation.

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Posted: 16 July 2008 08:51 PM   [ # 29 ]  
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Santi - 16 July 2008 06:37 PM

The only way to change is for people to become aware of the situation.

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your right!

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Posted: 16 July 2008 11:02 PM   [ # 30 ]  
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This is some video fotage of the Moso`s in action in Barcelona, its from the collection goin around that were used to arrest officers after an undercover monitoring operation.

http://tooshocking.com/view-3153-Interrogation_Beatdown

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