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UK TV in Alicante - What am i doing wrong ???
Posted: 20 November 2008 03:57 PM   [ # 16 ]  
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robin - 02 October 2007 11:19 PM

hi

the dish was used at a friends house less than 1 mile away & just down the road (300m) there is another person who has a 1.9m dish who picks up bbc/itv etc.


though i know this area is week.

should i be using the 11778 transponder or a different one ?


robin…

Once you have set your box on the transponder as you have said (12129 etc), you should be able to watch all the channels you require on a 1.9m with the exception of maybe BBC2 and 3,4 and a few other, ITV , BBC1 should be ok, There should be no requirement to go to 11778, however you will find that after a power cut, heavy weather , or just leavingthe box on a station that loses signal at some time the box will go to the default transponder, this normall should cause not problems, but should you have problems you may have to reset to 12129,, unplugging the box leaving for a couple of mins and just leaving it will usually solve the problem anyway. if it doesnt then you need to reset to 12129.

On the problem of reception of ITV vs CH4/5 it is probably down to dish setup as it is very critical,  The alignment, centering of LNB, and focal distance (From centre of dish to LNB Scalar ring) are all critical, on a 1.9M it should be 76.3mm.  Also ensure that there is no obstruction on the dish shoot to the satelite,  IE HT power cables , trees , chimneys etc.

But it sounds to me that the dish may be very slightly out of alignment. even 1mm can mean the difference between signal or no signal,

There is a very good help file here
http://www.satelliteforcaravans.co.uk/

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Posted: 20 November 2008 04:21 PM   [ # 17 ]  
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Hi,
just reading all these old posts, having just lost telimicro here and at my apartment on the coast (feeling very out of pocket) have set my old sky box up ( thomson dsi4101 )with 1.9 m dish. I purchased a lacuna IV meter and I am receiving many channels. I am just wondering which is the best transponder to align my dish to receive best signal?
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Posted: 20 November 2008 04:53 PM   [ # 18 ]  
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well you got the use off the net so why not google 28.2 east . will start off get a strong channel and then work back to astra 2d wich is the weakest channels on the system ,
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http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html Eurobird 1 & Astra 2A/2B/2C/2D at 28.2?E - LyngSat

2d and s1 are the weakest with fixed been the strongest single

any off the bbc channels will do

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Posted: 20 November 2008 05:34 PM   [ # 19 ]  
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Yes had a look at that site, brill. used 12129v trans 22 picked up bbc1, itv midlands, c5 etc, no radio loads of music channels. will try bbc channels and see how i get on. bees have ruined my ivacom lnb,. using a universal one at the moment (sharp) waiting for an inverto lnb to turn up. I think its coming by donkey viva espana!

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Posted: 20 November 2008 06:28 PM   [ # 20 ]  
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fatneck59 - 20 November 2008 05:34 PM

Yes had a look at that site, brill. used 12129v trans 22 picked up bbc1, itv midlands, c5 etc, no radio loads of music channels. will try bbc channels and see how i get on. bees have ruined my ivacom lnb,. using a universal one at the moment (sharp) waiting for an inverto lnb to turn up. I think its coming by donkey viva espana!

changing the defualt transponder DOES NOT make channels last longer, or increase reception or add secret channels…..
do a search of channels on 12129 and you will only get S4C and Create and Craft…no bbc channels are on that frequency so putting it into your sky receiver does not make bbc and itvs last longer.

a sky box uses the default transponder so that it can get 6 hours of EPG information - the minimum amount of information it requires to function -  then it knows whats on and can start top work. initially it looks at 11778, but if you cannot receive this frequency you put in an alternative. once the box has done a successfully download, then 99.9% of the time, the DT will revert back to 11778.

everytime you press services, or tv guide on your sky box it will automatically look at 11778 - scan 11778 and you will find the EPG background music as a seperate channel!!

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Posted: 20 November 2008 09:33 PM   [ # 21 ]  
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I think I might be getting my lines crossed here, I was just wondering which transponder signal on 2d would be best to align my dish up to

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Posted: 20 November 2008 11:16 PM   [ # 22 ]  
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well bbc2 (10773h) i find to be one of the weakest -
and bbc ci on 10847v to be one of the strongest…

so start with the strongest, then go to the weakest….

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Posted: 20 November 2008 11:37 PM   [ # 23 ]  
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thanks, I’ll try that the weekend and hope me new lnb turns up. do you sell spares as well? I’ll look on your site

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Posted: 23 November 2008 03:36 PM   [ # 24 ]  
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rfallen - 10 November 2007 11:32 PM

Robin, might i suggest that you could source your needs at the local tip.
Electric conduit tubing would be ideal heat the ends and flatten.
If you do not wish to concrete then use angle iron driven into the ground at 45 degrees and attach to that.
Depending on the size of dish I would use up to 4 outriggers,top bottom and both sides.
Just remember not to move the dish setup when tightening everything up.
An old mattress frame could be used, also there is some useful angle iron, flat bar and steel box section to be found in a dis guarded bed settee.
Best of luck and I assure you, you will gain great satisfaction in doing the job for nowt.
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I have just read this and WOULDNT recommend it,

When Fitting the brackets permanently you may distort your dish slightly Furhter if any movement does happen it will be the devils job to realign and still use the permanent fixings, if you think you may have problems with wind, the most common solution would be to fit Straining wires rather than rigid poles, BUT DONT overtighten them, in fact leave them slightly slack,, as the idea is to stop the wind sheer effect, limiting the snapping movement under high gusting winds and not to hold the dish rigid,  remember that even very small movements of the dish can affect reception and therefore setup is critical,

All the materials can be bought from a ferreteria for about 25?

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Posted: 23 November 2008 04:36 PM   [ # 25 ]  
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fatneck59 - 20 November 2008 04:21 PM

Hi,
just reading all these old posts, having just lost telimicro here and at my apartment on the coast (feeling very out of pocket) have set my old sky box up ( thomson dsi4101 )with 1.9 m dish. I purchased a lacuna IV meter and I am receiving many channels. I am just wondering which is the best transponder to align my dish to receive best signal?
                              Fatneck

Again, just reading somewhat belatedly,
You say you have a Lacuna IV meter, which means you willbe able to set the unit to the individual transponders,

dont be fooled by the importance attached to the default transponder, this really has no value other than to boot up your SKY box, and keep it up to date( there may also be a lot of other reasons), but for our purposes that is enough.  The other issue is how you set your dish up, and really the best bet ( in my view) is to set the dish for the weakest signal you can find, and in this case it would be the beam of Astra 2D, on that basis I always find the sat using the N/S dataset, looking for South beam V, then I switch to TP47 (BBC2 Scotland etc) or TP45 and look for the best I can on that, once I have it peaked lock it down, Always gives the best result, I have got 1.4M dishes getting BBC2 by using this method.

The Thomson box you have isnt the best though and you might have to go on Ebay and look for a DS430 or Pace 2600C1 which are about the best of the older types.

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Posted: 24 November 2008 05:01 PM   [ # 26 ]  
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fatneck59 what part off the world are you in , manybe you need to get some one in two help you set it up frist and right, could cost few euros but you have it , sat guy and .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  would the best guys to get in and know what there doing there

i am not around as i am head uk , Sweden , Ireland , France and last Madrid for my x mas party and i have to do this all be for Christmas just been told i am have to head to budapissed ( more drink lol )Budapest

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